Thanks for the great overview, it's a pivotal time, maybe a fourth turning. My contribution to the possibilities would be Texas seceding if things get tyrannical enough, maybe followed by others.
I could see almost any of these outcomes coming to pass. However, I think a massive Harris win would essentially be the same as a slight Harris win. No one on the right can comprehend a scenario where Harris could possibly win the election fairly. Coupled with what we've seen since Trump was first elected and especially since 2020, I can't imagine a scenario where Harris wins and anyone on the right believes it is a legitimate win.
Ironically, I feel like those on the left would say the same about Trump. They've built him up into such a boogeyman that many of them genuinely don't think it's possible for him to win and if he did they're convinced he will usher in WWIII while simultaneously becoming Hitler and turning America into Nazi Germany (historical precedent of 2016-2020 be damned).
If Trump wins there will be riots. If Harris wins...either nothing will happen or will know the silent conservative majority has finally reached a boiling point and the idea of secession and revolution will be in the open and on the table.
I don't see a world in which Harris wins and the right remains docile and abandons the Republican party. That would be a non-action. It would be easier to take over the GOP than it would be to build a new party and get it in the ballot. There's a reason we're a two party nation - because the two parties make a third party impossible.
"It would be easier to take over the GOP than it would be to build a new party..."
No doubt that it would be easier. But then, in the end, wouldn't the professional Republican politicians, who know that their wealth and power come from big government, co-opt the movement, and just turn it into the RINO Party, Part II? I don't trust those guys. That's what they did to the Tea Party movement.
The Republicans have had many, many opportunities to make government smaller and more accountable again. But for some reason they never do it. Could it be that they don't really want to? And they aren't going to change their stripes?
You're not wrong, if course. My only point is that creating a viable third party is a practical impossibility. Trump could have probably done it prior to getting the GOP nomination. But it would truly take a unifying national personality to get the grass roots effort that would be necessary. Even then, it would be nearly impossible.
Now, it might would be possible to co-opt a party that already has a nominal national presence such as the Constitution Party (but I'm not sure I know enough about them to even venture a guess about practicality).
Your point is 100% correct. Sadly, a new political party with a chance to win a lot of elections is not a reality. The Uniparty leftists have the power to prevent it. There are, for example, hundreds of tricks that judges can use to keep a new party off the ballot. The media has the power to keep such a candidate out of debates. And so on. RFK jr learned about these tricks. I guess he was surprised.
I don’t see how a DoD directive can change legal status via a directive. It’s blatantly unconstitutional and while some would follow that order, I think many would not.
Great piece. I guess I’ll go with a second stolen election with abandonment and destruction of the Republican party(hope springs eternal). I’ve been in favor of a new party since 2020: The Patriots party; for America and Americans.
The DOD just released a Directive that the Military can shoot to kill Aericans, using lethal force...and drones against us. I remember a James OKeepe undercover video where an aide to Gen. Austin blabbed that bcuz the American Military will not obey this, that they plan to use these military aged males DHS has been flying all across America giving them housing, $5K Debit cards etc. The writing is on the wall...Pray like your life depends on winning in a Landslide bcuz it really does...
I think there is a fifth. The outcome flips back and forth for a few days and no one thinks its legitimate. I would generally put most of my money on that one unfortunately. I do think it is Trump's to lose at this stage, but it is too close.
Unless you haven’t been paying attention, God Almighty in HIS mysterious ways raised up Donald Trump for this Divine Manifest Destiny - Security has intensified for President Trump - you have to learn to see in multiple dimensions - it’s an innate ability in all of us!
Yes, the potential for chaos is great; that's why the prediction about The Fourth Turning in 1991 is so striking. The authors originally predicted a turning point in American history in 2020. It seemed like the authors nailed it when the George Floyd riots broke out right on schedule that summer. Everything points to 2024, few weeks from now!! Antifa and BLM are sharpening their swords. They love the camaraderie of chaos. If the race is close and contested, like 2000, the chaos might be delayed. Thanks for the analysis of possibilities.
As I recently noted elsewhere, barring a late October surprise, Harris will win the popular vote. By between 1.5 and 2%. But Trump will win the Electoral College, by winning the battleground states. Am I the only one who suspects that Harris voters will not accept that? They will mount a campaign including widespread violent protests in every large city to demand that Trump not be Inaugurated. The people who falsely called Jay 6 an insurrection will mount a real insurrection. It's the kind of thing that leftists do.
A couple days ago, the well known ex-leftist journalist Mark Halperin, in the course of being interviewed by Tucker Carlson, made a compelling case for the idea that if Trump wins the leftists will literally suffer a mass psychosis. A dissociative inability to, on some level, accept the reality. Halperin, who knows these people very well, was for a long time in the thick of them, said they will suffer a kind of mass depression or something, and a nationwide mental breakdown will result. He’s a smart guy and he’s serious. He actually predicts it. No maybes.
A US where Antifa and BLM and burning and looting every Dem controlled city, as police stand down, and other leftists are suffering a never-before-imagined mass psychosis/breakdown would be an interesting thing to watch, from my living room located in a 100% white, armed rural village, located thousand miles from the nearest such city. Thinking about ordering a year's supply of popcorn.
Good morning Moscow! Democrats aren’t civil war cosplaying, gun hoarding vigilantes.
STOP trying to justify right wing violence against Democrats (whose numbers are actually greater than Republicans) by gaslighting Trump voters into thinking we want violence.
The only violent insurrection and attempt to overturn an election in the 250 year history of America was planned and incited by Trump and carried out by violent right wing extremists groups.
The problem is the inauguration is a couple months after the election.
If trump wins the fuse will be lit by media and the deep state. What would happen if 100k angry psycho lefots went to Washington on inauguration day. Not just punks with torches but the really zealot psycis you know they have chained up in the basement
Thanks for the great overview, it's a pivotal time, maybe a fourth turning. My contribution to the possibilities would be Texas seceding if things get tyrannical enough, maybe followed by others.
As a Texas resident, I have heard rumblings... then we can cut off their oil!
I could see almost any of these outcomes coming to pass. However, I think a massive Harris win would essentially be the same as a slight Harris win. No one on the right can comprehend a scenario where Harris could possibly win the election fairly. Coupled with what we've seen since Trump was first elected and especially since 2020, I can't imagine a scenario where Harris wins and anyone on the right believes it is a legitimate win.
Ironically, I feel like those on the left would say the same about Trump. They've built him up into such a boogeyman that many of them genuinely don't think it's possible for him to win and if he did they're convinced he will usher in WWIII while simultaneously becoming Hitler and turning America into Nazi Germany (historical precedent of 2016-2020 be damned).
If Trump wins there will be riots. If Harris wins...either nothing will happen or will know the silent conservative majority has finally reached a boiling point and the idea of secession and revolution will be in the open and on the table.
I don't see a world in which Harris wins and the right remains docile and abandons the Republican party. That would be a non-action. It would be easier to take over the GOP than it would be to build a new party and get it in the ballot. There's a reason we're a two party nation - because the two parties make a third party impossible.
"It would be easier to take over the GOP than it would be to build a new party..."
No doubt that it would be easier. But then, in the end, wouldn't the professional Republican politicians, who know that their wealth and power come from big government, co-opt the movement, and just turn it into the RINO Party, Part II? I don't trust those guys. That's what they did to the Tea Party movement.
The Republicans have had many, many opportunities to make government smaller and more accountable again. But for some reason they never do it. Could it be that they don't really want to? And they aren't going to change their stripes?
You're not wrong, if course. My only point is that creating a viable third party is a practical impossibility. Trump could have probably done it prior to getting the GOP nomination. But it would truly take a unifying national personality to get the grass roots effort that would be necessary. Even then, it would be nearly impossible.
Now, it might would be possible to co-opt a party that already has a nominal national presence such as the Constitution Party (but I'm not sure I know enough about them to even venture a guess about practicality).
Your point is 100% correct. Sadly, a new political party with a chance to win a lot of elections is not a reality. The Uniparty leftists have the power to prevent it. There are, for example, hundreds of tricks that judges can use to keep a new party off the ballot. The media has the power to keep such a candidate out of debates. And so on. RFK jr learned about these tricks. I guess he was surprised.
The Whigs are gone.
"The Whigs are gone."
Only the name has been changed.
The current two party system is far more entrenched.
Good point.
I don’t see how a DoD directive can change legal status via a directive. It’s blatantly unconstitutional and while some would follow that order, I think many would not.
Great piece. I guess I’ll go with a second stolen election with abandonment and destruction of the Republican party(hope springs eternal). I’ve been in favor of a new party since 2020: The Patriots party; for America and Americans.
The DOD just released a Directive that the Military can shoot to kill Aericans, using lethal force...and drones against us. I remember a James OKeepe undercover video where an aide to Gen. Austin blabbed that bcuz the American Military will not obey this, that they plan to use these military aged males DHS has been flying all across America giving them housing, $5K Debit cards etc. The writing is on the wall...Pray like your life depends on winning in a Landslide bcuz it really does...
We can EAT OUR GOVT... ;)
Great Headline and subtitle!
Which states control nuclear weapons, the unthinkable becomes 'thinkable.'
I think there is a fifth. The outcome flips back and forth for a few days and no one thinks its legitimate. I would generally put most of my money on that one unfortunately. I do think it is Trump's to lose at this stage, but it is too close.
Unless you haven’t been paying attention, God Almighty in HIS mysterious ways raised up Donald Trump for this Divine Manifest Destiny - Security has intensified for President Trump - you have to learn to see in multiple dimensions - it’s an innate ability in all of us!
War birds on the horizon. Just so everyone has to take it seriously.
Yes, the potential for chaos is great; that's why the prediction about The Fourth Turning in 1991 is so striking. The authors originally predicted a turning point in American history in 2020. It seemed like the authors nailed it when the George Floyd riots broke out right on schedule that summer. Everything points to 2024, few weeks from now!! Antifa and BLM are sharpening their swords. They love the camaraderie of chaos. If the race is close and contested, like 2000, the chaos might be delayed. Thanks for the analysis of possibilities.
Things keep changing, but perhaps the likely possibilities are becoming more clear.
"Antifa and BLM are sharpening their swords."
“Government officials are threatening to not certify a Trump 2024 win.”
https://protestia.substack.com/p/the-insurgency-friday-news-blast-502
As I recently noted elsewhere, barring a late October surprise, Harris will win the popular vote. By between 1.5 and 2%. But Trump will win the Electoral College, by winning the battleground states. Am I the only one who suspects that Harris voters will not accept that? They will mount a campaign including widespread violent protests in every large city to demand that Trump not be Inaugurated. The people who falsely called Jay 6 an insurrection will mount a real insurrection. It's the kind of thing that leftists do.
A couple days ago, the well known ex-leftist journalist Mark Halperin, in the course of being interviewed by Tucker Carlson, made a compelling case for the idea that if Trump wins the leftists will literally suffer a mass psychosis. A dissociative inability to, on some level, accept the reality. Halperin, who knows these people very well, was for a long time in the thick of them, said they will suffer a kind of mass depression or something, and a nationwide mental breakdown will result. He’s a smart guy and he’s serious. He actually predicts it. No maybes.
A US where Antifa and BLM and burning and looting every Dem controlled city, as police stand down, and other leftists are suffering a never-before-imagined mass psychosis/breakdown would be an interesting thing to watch, from my living room located in a 100% white, armed rural village, located thousand miles from the nearest such city. Thinking about ordering a year's supply of popcorn.
Thanks for commenting!
https://youtube.com/shorts/Hj_Xj9AN8vQ?si=6e8_Jyr2gU_3_Owm
Good one. Yes, it was a Dem coup, one of many.
I know Zager and Evans, not well, but they put Lincoln NE on the map.
Good morning Moscow! Democrats aren’t civil war cosplaying, gun hoarding vigilantes.
STOP trying to justify right wing violence against Democrats (whose numbers are actually greater than Republicans) by gaslighting Trump voters into thinking we want violence.
The only violent insurrection and attempt to overturn an election in the 250 year history of America was planned and incited by Trump and carried out by violent right wing extremists groups.
Tell the truth for once. Maybe you’ll like it.
The problem is the inauguration is a couple months after the election.
If trump wins the fuse will be lit by media and the deep state. What would happen if 100k angry psycho lefots went to Washington on inauguration day. Not just punks with torches but the really zealot psycis you know they have chained up in the basement
I'm sure what happens will be mostly peaceful, according to the media. And the police will do nothing to stop it.