"…. no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
George Orwell - 1984
Perhaps this assassination attempt is just one more step in making the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. Pray the mob does not fall for the bait.
Yes, I agree... The message is pretty clear to me... get us to FIGHT with each other, or ANYBODY... Get us killing each other. KILLING seems to be the main event. Beyond that, it's pretty clear to me, generally speaking, that there is a very clear directive to destroy the US. Who does it doesn't seem to matter that much.
You're right, if Nigel Farage's Reform and Marine le Pen in France are MAGA, and maybe they are, even if MAGA is Make America Great Again. I still think that a rightist movement should be more decentralized than MAGA.
E.g. Can MAGA supporters differ from Trump on major policy issues and still be MAGA? I don't know the answer.
If it has to be some sort of grassroots movement as you seem to suggest, why in the world would you trust a corrupted billionaire, of all people, with its leadership? He's the best candidate out of 330 million people? [Edit: with the blood of 21 million people on his hands, no less]
If you must know, my stance is, as William Buckley once suggested, that *anyone* would do a better job than those creeps. That, I call grassroots.
I'm not. If there's one thing we could all benefit from, it would be the end of being RULED by the RICH.
I support an END to centralized govt. AND an end to centralized BANKS. AND grassroots control.
The "way we've done it for so long" is not a great way.
And as a rule, I don't TRUST anybody who actively seeks power over others, nor do I trust ANYBODY who has a lot of money.
I keep editing this, lol. I'm not sure the idea of "Make America Great Again" has to necessarily be about TRUMP... maybe it does, but I can understand the feeling of it. America is on its knees after a dedicated effort to put it there. I would like to see us make a "comeback"... as a country of friendly STATES, not as an EMPIRE of hegemony and death for anybody whose resources we want to steal...
I don’t think MAGA dies with trump! The tea party was a beginning of what we all know of as MAGA today! They have jailed two possible candidates and I believe a General could run this country better than any of the Democrats! The Democrats have no one to replace a Demented Man! They are self serving people like a gang of thieves! They will scatter like the rats they are! Trump has the best record to get the dimdims out of that cesspool inside the beltway!! Like history has done before, all governments become the enemy of their own people! Our own government needs to be cut down drastically so they can follow the law as the Constitution intended! We can’t have the sycophants and criminals running our country! Look at what they have done!! They are on both sides of the aisle! Traitors!
I truly hope you are right, and it's true that there is no way to know for sure. But I fear the worst. Remember how Ross Perot's movement against the regime was quashed when the media succeeded in discrediting him?
I think we need to GET OUT OF THIS DICHOTOMY THINKING.
This or that. Them or Those. You or Me. Him or Her. This or That.
WE NEED TO BE UNITED AS WE THE PEOPLE -- the MASSES-- against the relatively TINY little cabal of manipulators that have MOST OF THE WEALTH and want it ALL.
Even if they had a "don't fire unless fired upon" protocol they should have gone into Trump removal mode as soon as the shooter was spotted.
And how was it the shooter WASN'T spotted until AFTER shots fired?
The guy was on a roof, CLEARLY VISIBLE, with a weapon... pretty sketchy.
Indeed. They could have had a drone up, a spotter on the water tower, a couple of guys on perimeter security. Makes one wonder.
Yes, it doo.
"…. no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
George Orwell - 1984
Perhaps this assassination attempt is just one more step in making the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. Pray the mob does not fall for the bait.
Yes, I agree... The message is pretty clear to me... get us to FIGHT with each other, or ANYBODY... Get us killing each other. KILLING seems to be the main event. Beyond that, it's pretty clear to me, generally speaking, that there is a very clear directive to destroy the US. Who does it doesn't seem to matter that much.
MAGA doesn’t die if Trump is murdered by Biden/Obama. They might think that. But MAGA is everywhere around the world now. And growing exponentially.
You're right, if Nigel Farage's Reform and Marine le Pen in France are MAGA, and maybe they are, even if MAGA is Make America Great Again. I still think that a rightist movement should be more decentralized than MAGA.
E.g. Can MAGA supporters differ from Trump on major policy issues and still be MAGA? I don't know the answer.
MAGA is a psyop, just like Qanon was.
Think of it as Power to the People, and not "MAGA." Think generic. Think END CORPORATE RULE. Better?
If it has to be some sort of grassroots movement as you seem to suggest, why in the world would you trust a corrupted billionaire, of all people, with its leadership? He's the best candidate out of 330 million people? [Edit: with the blood of 21 million people on his hands, no less]
If you must know, my stance is, as William Buckley once suggested, that *anyone* would do a better job than those creeps. That, I call grassroots.
Ohhh, you think I'm supporting Trump?
I'm not. If there's one thing we could all benefit from, it would be the end of being RULED by the RICH.
I support an END to centralized govt. AND an end to centralized BANKS. AND grassroots control.
The "way we've done it for so long" is not a great way.
And as a rule, I don't TRUST anybody who actively seeks power over others, nor do I trust ANYBODY who has a lot of money.
I keep editing this, lol. I'm not sure the idea of "Make America Great Again" has to necessarily be about TRUMP... maybe it does, but I can understand the feeling of it. America is on its knees after a dedicated effort to put it there. I would like to see us make a "comeback"... as a country of friendly STATES, not as an EMPIRE of hegemony and death for anybody whose resources we want to steal...
I don’t think MAGA dies with trump! The tea party was a beginning of what we all know of as MAGA today! They have jailed two possible candidates and I believe a General could run this country better than any of the Democrats! The Democrats have no one to replace a Demented Man! They are self serving people like a gang of thieves! They will scatter like the rats they are! Trump has the best record to get the dimdims out of that cesspool inside the beltway!! Like history has done before, all governments become the enemy of their own people! Our own government needs to be cut down drastically so they can follow the law as the Constitution intended! We can’t have the sycophants and criminals running our country! Look at what they have done!! They are on both sides of the aisle! Traitors!
"I don’t think MAGA dies with trump!"
I truly hope you are right, and it's true that there is no way to know for sure. But I fear the worst. Remember how Ross Perot's movement against the regime was quashed when the media succeeded in discrediting him?
MAGA needs to reduce its dependence on Trump. Cults of personality parties are for unstable South American countries. We need a coherent ideology.
Lol we have a Leader
Fuck ideology
Ideology is a false path
Fragile.
Real life is like that.
Communism outlived Marx, Lenin, Stalin,...
The Constitution outlived the Founding Fathers. Some portions still have an effect to this day.
"Some portions still have an effect to this day."
Understatement or hyperbole?
The Science isn't Settled.
Many wish death on me …👑
https://youtu.be/biBwMi1H3y0?si=10AvyaR9gKZB-QLl
I found that both terrifying and entertaining.
Be not afraid of death.
Cuz this is going to suck enough as it is…
I think we need to GET OUT OF THIS DICHOTOMY THINKING.
This or that. Them or Those. You or Me. Him or Her. This or That.
WE NEED TO BE UNITED AS WE THE PEOPLE -- the MASSES-- against the relatively TINY little cabal of manipulators that have MOST OF THE WEALTH and want it ALL.